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”Unless you are the lead dog, your view never changes.” On the Sales Lead Dog podcast, CRM technology and sales process expert Christopher Smith talks with exceptional sales leaders that have separated themselves from the rest and achieved a sales leadership role in their organization. Hear what they did to become the alpha, lead their pack, and how they leverage CRM technology to drive sales for their organization. If your goal is to rise higher in your sales career or you currently are the alpha, this podcast gives you useful insight on how the best-of-the-best achieve success with their team and CRM technology.
Episodes

Thursday May 13, 2021
Skip Miller, The Art of Outbounding
Thursday May 13, 2021
Thursday May 13, 2021
In today’s episode on Sales Lead Dog, we are joined again by our guest, Skip Miller. Skip is the President of M3 Learning, a ProActive Sales Management and Sales Training Company based in the heart of Silicon Valley and has already trained hundreds of companies in over 35 countries.
Skip discusses his new book, Outbounding. He will talk about outbound sales and how to become successful through outbounding, how inbound and outbound sales differ from each other, and the right ways to do outbound calls and messagings.
Most companies and businesses are hooked on inbound sales, relying more on inbound leads, and not taking risks or emphasis on doing outbound with the fear of losing potential customers. Tune in to this week's episode to learn why outbounding sales is so important to your business!
Quotes
"As a sales leader out bounding right, I've got a simple question. What's the size of the problem? It doesn't get easier than that. They've got to have a problem, because you want to be an aspirin, not a vitamin. And they've got to be able to quantify it." (21:19-21:39)
"I think…one of the natural curiosities, one of the, one of the great sales tools that salespeople can have is a natural curiosity. Right, and not fake, I mean just dive in." (22:12-22:24)
"…you could have all the cadences and sequences, and you can have all the sales enablement process tools like outreach sells, right. But you got to have good messaging." (26:27-26:37)
"You got to get through the noise and if you don't know your numbers, you're just hoping you win the game without a strategy and boy, that doesn't work too well." (35:42-35:50)
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Monday May 10, 2021
Rebecca Grimes, If You're Not Failing, You're Not Learning
Monday May 10, 2021
Monday May 10, 2021
Empathy and compassion are the leadership building blocks Rebecca Grimes has built her foundation on to allow her team to be vulnerable and accept failure as a means to grow and learn.
In this week’s episode Rebecca Grimes, Chief Revenue Officer for Ruby.com breaks down how she accomplished exponential growth as a fairly new leader during such a tumultuous year. Her skills in B2B and B2C marketing has led large scale growth for a number of SaaS companies.
She has been named an Ignite Visibility’s Courageous Marketing Leaders in 2020, 2018 Women to Watch in the DMN Marketing Hall of Femme and one of the top 25 Mobile Women to Watch in 2014 by Mobile Marketer.
Tune in to learn how Rebecca pushed through the uncertainty of leading a company during such a tumultuous year!
Quotes
“I'm a big believer that you own it, you take accountability, even if it wasn't you, you fall on the sword, and you learn from it, and you create a path forward.” (24:16-24:25)
“When any new leader joins an organization, there is a wealth of knowledge in terms of what's working, what's not working, things that we need to be prioritizing.” (13:27-13:35)
“I think that is the acceptability of being vulnerable in front, especially now, like with everything that has happened over the last, you know, 14 months since the pandemic started leading with compassion and empathy and, and letting people have space and take a moment is, is something that is probably going to be expected.” (22:22-22:45)
“And we've worked very hard to create an environment where that is acceptable and expected that you are failing all the time.” (24:53-25:00)
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Thursday May 06, 2021
Mark Schaefer, Cumulative Advantage
Thursday May 06, 2021
Thursday May 06, 2021
To succeed and stand out in this very busy world requires more than just greatness, it takes momentum. This is what Mark’s new book is trying to teach us.
The highlight of this episode is centered on his new best-selling book, Cumulative Advantage. Listen to this podcast now and learn what inspired him to write the book, what the book is all about, and how it can help an individual in succeeding even without having safety nets or having millions, just pure momentum!
Mark W. Schaefer is a globally-recognized author, speaker, podcaster, and business consultant who blogs at {grow} — one of the top five marketing blogs in the world. Mark is Top 10 most re-tweeted marketing authorities in the world. He was also listed as one of the Top 10 authorities on Social Selling by Forbes.
Quotes
"And so that was my journey is to go down this rabbit hole of what is really the system of momentum, what is the pattern of momentum, and how do we apply this in our businesses." (15:17-15:30)
"It's not just about having an idea, momentum has to begin by pursuing that that idea by, by creating really a quest of this of this initial advantage." (20:37-20:50)
"And here was the light bulb that went off influence on the internet is determined by who can move content, who can move ideas. That's if you can move, ideas, you move influence if you can do it a lot you're more influential, and I realized, wait a minute. He can measure influence, and we are on the brink of an entirely new marketing opportunity." (24:53-25:22)
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Monday May 03, 2021
Faiza Hughell, Creating Abundance in Business
Monday May 03, 2021
Monday May 03, 2021
Working hard and smart is the only time that greed is acceptable in Faiza Hughell's eyes. Faiza is the SVP of Small Business at RingCentral and has an abundance of knowledge when it comes to sales and building a strong sales team.
She has invested greatly in her staff at RingCentral and has a plethora of wisdom to share about how investing in your employees can create a world of abundance for your business.
Tune into this week's episode to learn more about sales strategy and creating a culture of learning and evolving within your business!
Quotes
"You've got to work hard, and you've got to work smart. And I tell my team this all the time, when you're working hard, and you're working smart, that is the only time in life that greed is a good thing. Because it creates this world of abundance." (15:03-15:13)
"A piece of advice, I give every rookie leader don't think you're going to make a bunch of yous. Instead, plan on what's uniquely different about everyone your team, and help them to really highlight their strengths to find success." (18:23-18:36)
"I'm super proud of my two vice presidents, the one who leads upselling retention Jenny, and the one who leads acquisition. They have both been with me for nine years and they both started their journeys as insight sellers answering the hotline, taking those small office home office calls. Fast forward today. They're VPS of a company who jointly lead half of our revenue and it's amazing. I love to track progression progression is one of my favorite things as a leader." (24:14-24:44)
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Thursday Apr 29, 2021
Mark Musselman, Continually Evolving
Thursday Apr 29, 2021
Thursday Apr 29, 2021
Coaching is a calling that Mark Musselman has honed and perfected over the past 20 years. His years of experience as CEO running 2 rapidly growing $30+M companies has led him to start his own consulting company so he can coach others to success.
In this episode, Mark explains the coaching styles and techniques that build trust and loyalty between leadership and their salespeople; which leads to continuous improvement, that allows for people to evolve and grow.
Tune into this week's episode to learn about coaching your sales team to success!
Quotes
“So the one thing that I have found is if I use the language of continuous improvement with anybody, it invites them into this conversation that doesn't talk about right and wrong, it's just about continuously evolving." (25:56-26:09)
"In order for any team to work effectively, it has to have a platform and a foundation of trust. So people withhold when they don't trust in the condition of the team, with more trust comes more transparency." (31:43-32:05)
"I run into all kinds of circumstances where I'll show up in a room with a leadership team. And like you can hear a pin drop. Right. And what that is an indication of like nobody here trusts the leader, right, because there's no conversation taking place, and everybody's sitting on their hands and they're biting their lips and they're hoping and praying that I don't call on them." (35:16-35:40)
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Monday Apr 26, 2021
Robert Merritt, Culture of Accessibility and Accountability
Monday Apr 26, 2021
Monday Apr 26, 2021
Owning his self-development was the key to Robert Merritt's success. His eagerness to learn as much as he could and hone is craft and remain accountable for himself is what he attributes to where he is today, as High5's Chief Revenue Officer.
Robert breaks down the type of culture that every marketing leader should be aspiring to create in the episode. He talks about building good repertoire with his coworkers and being open to feedback as a way to stay approachable and accessible.
Tune into this week's episode to learn attainable leadership tools that apply to anyone working in a collaborative environment.
Quotes
"Feedback should always start with asking for it. So someone always needs to be very proactive and asking for it. Ideally, the leader." (34:55-35:02)
"Everybody on that team has to have kind of I guess a growth mindset…people that get people that really devote themselves to trying to learn and understand their craft." (32:03-32:39)
"I really owned my own development, my own self development was my responsibility. It was not my employer's responsibility. And something happened to where I just got hooked on learning education, trying to, you know, understand my craft trying to understand my customers trying to create a knowledge base in business that would allow me to extend beyond the script." (15:50-16:13)
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Thursday Apr 22, 2021
Greg Grand, The Art of the Interview
Thursday Apr 22, 2021
Thursday Apr 22, 2021
“Go deep” says Greg Grand, founder and CEO of G-Squared Advisors. Greg consults for businesses that want to scale up by revamping their sales process, strategy, and execution. In this episode of Sales Lead Dog, host Chris Smith is talking with Greg about what it really means to support sales growth, from training to CRM and beyond.
Greg is used to diving in and offering practical tips, and that’s exactly what he does in this episode. He talks about adopting a “servant leader” mindset, and investing in both group and individual training for everyone on your team, even top performers. He talks about balancing business and personal goal setting, how to interview so you actually get to know someone before you hire them, and what CRM can do for your employees on an individual level--not just for the company.
This episode is jam packed with tips for everyone on your sales team, from the rookie seller to the CEO. You won’t want to miss it!
Quotes
- "...you need a sales leader who's been doing this, has interviewed hundreds of salespeople, to really figure it out because salespeople are salespeople they're going to be great on their interviews." (12:09-12:18)
- "When they see that you're investing your time in them and you care and you really want to see them succeed, it tends to create some pretty good loyalty." (24:14-24:22)
- "A sales leader should be in the servant leader mindset.”
- “I believe that a sales leader really should be putting themselves in a servant leader mindset. That almost in essence you work for the sales team.” (6:52-7:00)
Links
https://www.linkedin.com/in/greggrand/
Podcast production and show notes provided by FIRESIDE Marketing

Wednesday Apr 21, 2021
Erik Norman, Resiliency in Sales
Wednesday Apr 21, 2021
Wednesday Apr 21, 2021
“You have to own your own results,” says Erik Norman, Senior Vice President of Bolger Printing Minneapolis, MN. As the leader of an international printing company that works with major financial institutions, luxury retail and health care organizations, Erik has clearly seen a lot of success. But in this episode of Sales Lead Dog, he’s talking with Chris Smith about the other side of sales: failure, and the need to be resilient.
When asked what he wished he had known about sales, Erik was frank. He wished he had known how much failure he’d have to face in those early days. So often, people want to get into sales because it seems glamorous, and lucrative. But to be successful in sales, you have to cope with a lot of rejection and failure. Erik talks with Chris about how he built up resilience, and how he learned to become “the president of Erik Norman Inc.” and take accountability for his own sales journey.
Tune in this week to hear about resilience, and how Erik feels about his own “lukewarm” feelings about CRM in this episode of Sales Lead Dog.
Quotes:
- “You need to learn resiliency and how to move forward against all sorts of obstacles.” (13:25-13:31)
- “I had a house, one time, where my wife and I wanted to re landscape and we had all these Juniper bushes these low growing Juniper bushes, you know, and the roots are literally everywhere. So you think I can just pull this little thing up you pull it up and what you realize is, you never get all the roots. So, and when you start tugging on something and it's got these long roots it's difficult to move. And so, you know, that then kind of describes some of the challenges you have to be then careful and methodical and respectful in how you're going to drive change, while also balancing the urgency that the organization wants…” (26:53-27:32)
Links
Bolger • Minnesota's Print and Digital Technology Company (bolgerinc.com)
Bolger Printing | LinkedIn
Erik Norman: LinkedIn
Empellor CRM Website
Empellor CRM LinkedIn
Podcast production and show notes provided by FIRESIDE Marketing
https://meetfireside.com/podcast-production-service/

Thursday Apr 15, 2021
Wesleyne Greer, The Three P’s: People, Process and Profit
Thursday Apr 15, 2021
Thursday Apr 15, 2021
Chemist turned sales coach, Wesleyne Greer has a clear idea of what contributed to her sales success: people, process, and profit... and in that order. Wesleyne explains that her work in a lab just wasn’t getting her the face-to-face interaction she craved. She turned to sales as a profession because it fulfilled her constant curiosity and played to her listening skills and problem-solving strengths. Once she entered a sales role, Wesleyne quickly realized that this profession was the job she had always dreamed of.
Wesleyne’s passion and drive resulted in a rapid ascent from individual contributor to international sales manager. However, when she reached this new stage on the sales ladder, she was surprised by a striking deficit in available resources. While she had received plenty of guidance in her entry role, there just weren’t the same support systems in place at the managerial level. This experience inspired Weslyne to start her own business that focuses on helping sales managers transform into empowered leaders, who can effectively guide their teams to consistent success.
Tune into this week’s episode of Sales Lead Dog to learn more about Wesleyne’s perspective on how sales managers can establish a balance between authority and individualized support for each and every team member. How should a sales manager approach top performers? How do you balance pressure from your boss with adding lasting value to your sales team? What integral role does your CRM play in your team’s success? Wesleyne and host Chris Smith will explore these questions in-depth during this week’s episode, “The Three P’s: People, Process, and Profit.”
Quotes:
- “It’s all about the three P’s: People, Process and Profit. In that order.”
- “I say it's all about the three P's and its people, process and profit. And I put profit at the end, and people at the beginning because essentially without the right people in place, you're not going to be profitable and building a process without having the right people in place, you won't ensure that you have profit.” (4:48-5:12)
- “I tell people that when I got into sales, I finally figured out what I wanted to be when I grew up.” (6:31-6:37)
- “I always always tell sales managers and sales leaders it’s about solid sales skills….You can teach them your products, your services, you can teach them the technology. But what you can’t teach somebody is really solid sales skills.” (9:49-10:06)
- “You build your sales process not based on what the corporate office wants it to be or what your boss wants it to be. You make your sales process off of what’s working in the field. And the way you figure out what’s working in the field is you talk to the top performers.” (15:48-16:03)
- “When I ask a sales leader, ‘Who is your salesperson or who are your top salespeople?’, they always give me the one who’s hitting quota. But to me, it’s more about consistency. Sometimes people can have a really great year, and then they can be duds for the next two years. So a definition of success is consistency.” (20:50-21:14)
- “You have to do a postmortem because it’s ok to lose a deal, but it’s not ok to lose a deal the same way twice.” (28:10-28:18)
Links
Website: https://www.transformedsales.com/
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesleynegreer/
Linkedin Business: https://www.linkedin.com/company/transformedsales
Podcast production and show notes provided by FIRESIDE Marketing

Monday Apr 12, 2021
Matt Green, Success in Hiring: Hire slow and as a team. Trust your gut.
Monday Apr 12, 2021
Monday Apr 12, 2021
For Matt Green, Chief Revenue Officer at Sales Assembly, it’s all about the individual. Sales Assembly helps B2B technology organizations across the country “scale smarter,” with a people-focused approach. In this episode of Sales Lead Dog, Matt shares his philosophy of building the best sales team: hiring slow and as a team across the organization.
For Matt, motivating your team means motivating the individual. He believes that taking the time to focus on individual needs can make all the difference in the success of your entire team - because as he says, in a team of four, “if three of them are a yes, and one of them is a no, then [the whole team is] a no.” And when it comes to motivating your team to use CRM… the key is to find both your carrot and your stick.
Tune in this week to Sales Lead Dog to hear Matt’s insights on hiring, and find out what the best salesperson he ever hired said in the interview that made all the difference.
Quotes
- “…it's really tough, especially when you're hiring salespeople because if there's one thing about, you know, even not that great of a salesperson, he or she is probably halfway decent at selling themselves.” (22:31-22:43)
- “…setting up a hiring committee that you know consists of you as … the leader, consists of maybe a peer in a different department, consists of a peer that this person may not be working for but maybe working alongside… let's say of four people. And if three of them are, right, yes and one of them is a no, then it's a no.” (22:54-23:46)
- “It's important not to focus on motivating the team I think it's important to focus on how you motivate the individuals within the team.” (31:05-31:15)
Links
https://www.salesassembly.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/sales-assembly/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewcorneliusgreen/
Empellor CRM Website
https://www.empellorcrm.com
Empellor CRM LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/company/empellorcrm
Podcast production and show notes provided by FIRESIDE Marketing
https://meetfireside.com/podcast-production-service/